Book 19: The Departure

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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by gh astly » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:04 am

Really, this is a book where I think Cassie's actions are more justified than most other books. You're completely right in saying that most people would have quit long ago, and it does raise some good questions about what would happen if a different group of kids found Elfangor in the construction site.
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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by Tobias_Marco » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:44 pm

Blu wrote:People criticize Cassie a lot for what she did here, but you have to take a few facts into consideration: She's terribly young (maybe 13 at the time?); she's in a war that only 6 of them (currently) fight in against an entire empire; she has a family who knows nothing of it; she could be killed at any moment; and she just needlessly killed a sentient creature who, were it not for the Yeerk, was a peaceful innocent. Add to that, she's probably wounded and killed a number of innocents before that event aswell...

I think 99% of kids her age would have quit a long, long time ago. She needs some credit for returning to the fight when most kids wouldn't even have started it.




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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by mostafahmed » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:13 am

The best thing about the book is that it is a big step that creates peace and shows that yeerks are somehow good in a way. Teaching us how Smart yet naïve Cassie is. It kinda explains jake's interest in her.
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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by lady_summoner » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:02 am

This book combined with #18 gives a lot of depth to the series. The Andalites aren’t all good and the Yeerks have an understandable motivation for taking hosts.

The natural morphing doesn’t really make sense, but there’s a lot of nonsensical things in the series and this particular one doesn’t bother me.
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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by YeerkSalad » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:47 am

Until I read this book, I wanted to punch Cassie on a regular basis. This time, however, I began to think she was a better character.
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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by iamkeon » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:54 pm

Later in the series, someone (maybe Rachem, yes Rachem) wonders about the natural lifespan of the red-tailed hawk. If ever there were a good end point for as stagnant a character as Cassie, it would be the post script to her becoming and remaining a nothlit.

She would live with Rachem or Jake for a month to a year, and then die. It would be the first true Animorph casualty of the war. It would show that there are stakes here, that things don't always tie up neatly for our protagonists. That not everyone gets to go home. KA has stated that Tobias went nothlit in the first book to show that there are stakes. Tobias, I feel, was the easy answer.

In fact, I would argue that Tobias becoming a hawk was generally a net positive in comparison to his life before the construction site, but I digress.

My point is that there should have been consequences. There should have been real loss, and grief, and potential new conflict within the Animorphs as a result of this book's events.

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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by iamkeon » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:14 pm

I would also like to add that I loved the image of Marco in the rain, eyes dark and seething with rage, looking down at Cassie in the muddy forest and telling her how stupid she is. It was one of the first moments of real anger and resentment within the group that didn't seem to have an easy fix. I wondered at the time what lasting repercussions this would have. Could the others still trust her? Did they need a contingency plan for scenarios like this? Would Jake need to create rules for them to follow, and would some sort of disciplinary system be necessary to enforce them?

I'm not a Cassie hater, just someone who wishes her character suffered consequences and grew as a result of them. I like the whole Aftran storyline, but I definitely agree with others who think Cassie had her cake and ate it too a little too frequently. I guess that's to be expected when the character is a cipher for the author.

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Re: Book 19: The Departure

Post by Ylva » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:08 am

This is the only book apart from the first one I do still remember most of the plot. I even remember the last words: "Geht und fangt diesen Schmetterling!" / "Go and catch that butterfly!" I guess I was 14 years old reading it. And hell, I felt so sorry for the poor little yeerk who has no chance to really live without his host. I had read all of the books before and never considered the yeerk point of view. Today I think this aspect comes up quite late in the whole story and I guess that today I would have figured it out for myself before book number 19. But it's after all a book written for children/teens and kids at this age do need someone who clearly show them a certain point. So all of this had to happen and Cassie had to make her sacrifice - but it would have been too hard I she would have died for this. So they went and caught the butterfly.