Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by aniwhovimorphian » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:15 pm

I would say all (Most, anyway) yeerks where idiots. This isn't noticed often because most people where 8 or 9 when they read them. The only reason it took 54 books was because they have power

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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by JSF16 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:49 pm

Following up on a necropost, I know.

The Yeerks didn't know how to properly fight a concentrated war with multiple generals. The Vissers were almost feudal-like, various war lords scrabbling for power. The Andalites had a concrete hierarchy and respect for said hierarchy was deeply rooted in the military. The Yeerks were on a power trip, like a kid in the candy store for the first time with unlimited money. They'd never had anything like a real command structure before in their slug state, and they'd been out and about in space as a government for what, under a century? They were gobbling things up too fast, growing and growing, and they just organized things as they went along. This caught up with them at the end, with no real proper command structure and most Yeerks hungry for power after generations of living in pools and suddenly commanding soldiers in bodies with weapons and spacecraft. Earth wasn't the turning point of the war, what where their losses really? Two generals, a pool ship, a bladeship and accompanying soldiers/fighters. A nasty blow, but not the end of the war. They still had the Taxxon and Hork Bajir worlds among other planets, and were still a dangerous force. However, with the power vacuum created by several high-ranking generals gone and the Vissers all scrambling for control, the Andalites would probably have an advantage. With the Andalites on one side and the self-destructive Yeerk hierarchy on the other, the Empire was doomed with or without Earth. And given another decade or so, I can easily see human soldiers siding with the Andalites to finished off the Yeerks.

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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by hezzel » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:34 pm

For a different point of view... I would say the yeerks lost because the Andalites didn't care much about earth, or humans - and the yeerks did care.

If the yeerks had pushed for an all-out invasion, then the Andalites would have simply sent a fleet to destroy all of earth. The yeerks knew this. That's why they had to keep going with Visser One's plans, and tread very carefully. At least, until they had enough hidden power to seize maybe a billion humans and either get out of there or build enough defenses that they could protect the planet. For example, building another yeerk pool stealthily would have taken them years, and doing it more obviously would have drawn attention.

Then, taking into account how careful they had to be, the effects of small setbacks from rebel attacks, incompetent leadership, morale loss and an internal resistence were all magnified. Thus their progress grinded to a halt, and they got more and more local enemies. When they eventually did go for the all-out invasion, they had to rush -- and even so, they were not going to pull it off in time, as the Andalites were already set to destroy earth the moment Ax gave the signal. Because of this rush, they didn't defend their assets (read: yeerk pool) as well as they could, and therefore human forces (and allies, and traitors) could do them enormous damage.

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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by JSF16 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:51 pm

I doubt the Andalites would've reacted immediately to a full-out Yeerk invasion, or that they could've. There was a Z-space rift, getting o earth was a long, long process.

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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by Tobias_Marco » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:48 pm

JSF16 wrote:...They'd never had anything like a real command structure before in their slug state, and they'd been out and about in space as a government for what, under a century? They were gobbling things up too fast, growing and growing, and they just organized things as they went along. ...
<Much less than a century actually.>
Hork-Bajir Chronicles, page 10
Andalite date: year 8563.5
Yeerk date: Generation 686, early-cycle
Hork-Bajir date: late-cool
Earth date: 1968

<We then see Andalites on the Yeerk home world, and one of the Andalites reports to Prince Seerow that Yeerks have stolen some of their ships. The very first act in the Yeerk war. This means that the war went from 1968 all the way to 2000, for a total of 32 Earth years, give or take a few months. Remember in this case we take 2000-1968, now if we knew that the war started in Jan 1968 and ended in Dec of 2000 then we could say it took 33 years, however there is no way to know what month it was here on Earth when the war started, however we can try to guess what month it ended.>
<This means that Humans were only involved in the war for the last 11% of the time.>
<As you can see the Yeerks have had Gedd hosts for who-knows-how-long, there really is no way I know of to be sure how long, maybe thousands of years, then they find out that aliens are real and they become greedy for power (after all, its not like any of them will live long enough to see any of their children). It takes then 1/3 of a century to go from stealing the alien's space ships to losing the war on Earth to Jake and his group of Animorphs. Sure, that may not have been all of the Yeerk force, but it was enough of a blow that it let the Andalites clean up whatever was left elsewhere.>


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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by Dilandu » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:39 am

Well, the main reasonis is the Andalite's overwhelming industrial superiority. Let's don't forget the fact, that before the Yeerks invasion, the Hork-Bajir homevorld, for example, haven't got any heavy industry at all. And the fact that the Andalite's used the xenocide tactics against yeerks-controlled worlds, which entailed the destruction of the industrial potential of the latter.

So... Despite the fact, that the Yeerks Empire where technicaly large, its industrial capacity was actually very low. I sincerely admire the geniality of yeerk's engineers, who was able to organize the mass production of warships and military equipment at all!

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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by Tobias_Marco » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:05 pm

<Great point.>
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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by Dilandu » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:08 pm

Thanks.

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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by Tobias_Marco » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:24 pm

<Your welcome.>
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Re: Why Did the Yeerks Lose the War?

Post by Lildbgw » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:02 am

The yeerks lost because of visser 3. He was too arrogant. Had visser 1 remained over the invasion the animorphs would've lost